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Peter Connan wrote::redface:
Sorry...

One of these days, I promise.
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That is unfortunately a pretty accurate representation of my current situation... :woo:
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Let me re-phrase that for you...
Peter Connan wrote:That is fortunately a pretty accurate representation of my current situation... :woo:
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Ok, so i did the wheel bearing pre-load adjustment, all went reasonably well considering i had none of the certified tools, making do with what i had. Anyway, all said and done, the wheel no longer has any play and all is good, HOWEVER, it has not cured the shimmy. I almost shed a tear this evening after i took it out for a test drive. Still seems the same as before.

So, back to the drawing board.

Gonna order a steering damper on monday and also find out who can press out the PHR bushes for me and press in replacements... Any ideas in the CT area?
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Dont have any advice but just wanna say good luck Russ, sounds like a very trying time on your patience!
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Sorry to hear Russ - really hoped it would be quick and easy :thumbdown: At least you are now one down on your elimination list :thumbup: :confused:

What gets to me is that there was nothing wrong with your Troll till you took it to the alignment guys :think:
I have read (Check second post:http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php/ ... r-sheaves/) that lifted solid suspensions & big tyres are sensitive to toe-in settings and wonder if the guys really set it back to where it was especially with the loose wheel bearing?
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I agree with Dawid
You had no problems before and with a lose weelbearing you are going to get a wrong reading :think: the problem is how did the weel ouks miss it??????
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@ Dave - Thanks mate, its been 3 months of hell now, maybe even longer now that i think about it.

@ David and Tinus - Yes they did set it back to exactly what it was the day i took it in for alignment (or at least back to what it was set to the previous time ), i was standing under the vehicle and telling him how far to go. It currently set at -4' toe-in . However, u do make a good point in regard to the fact that it surely could not be perfectly accurate with a slightly loose bearing ?

When i took it to them the vehicle was perfect, afterwards, shimmy. Just blows the mind, very irritating. They have tried everything they know to sort it but it is beyond their skill level now im afraid.

Im also gonna test using my Girlfriends rims and tyres (Jeep ) .... (i know ,believe me i know) haha, and maybe IT IS just the rim phenomenon and all the experts have missed it. Eish. Its sad when u go to the garage and rather take the girlfriends vehicle to town.
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Hi Russ,

Sorry to read the tale of woe....have you made any progress on this yet?

If you panhard bushes are the same as on my van, I was able to press them in and out myself. Remove the PH rod from the van, then use the bottle jack and a large socket (sorry can`t remember which size I used, but you`ll figure it out). Place the PH rod under the vehicle with the bush that you want to remove lined up with one of the holes in the gearbox cross member (from memory it has two holes in it which are perfect size for this). With the socket placed on top of the jack, and up against the bush, you can now "press" the bush out of the rod (jacking against the weight of the vehicle is enough force to press the bush out). Reverse procedure to install the new bush. I used some soap as lubricant to assist with pressing the new bushes in.

This is the "bush mechanic" way of doing it, but in the absence of a press, it does work. As a note of caution, I seem to remember reading that the 4.8`s have a slightly different bush design to my patrol and require more pressing force than the above method can deliver. I can`t remember if this was a 4.8 thing, or if it would apply to all later model GU`s. Maybe someone else here will know.

Hope you come right!
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I have noticed in the last 2 weeks that when I drive the Patrol - not driving it everyday - I have a wobble for about the first 2 kilometers and after that the wobble is gone for the rest of the day!
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