Homemade Draw system with video showing final product - Plenty lessons learnt!!!
Posted: 19 Oct 2020 11:38
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The idea behind this thread is to share my experience with you all, including my lessons learnt while building my homemade, DIY draw system. I'm going to start off by saying that I'm pretty useless when it comes to DIY stuff and that I contemplated long and hard before deciding to tackle this project, watching many videos and reading many threads before taking the leap.
In the end, I'm glad that I did take the plunge and I encourage others to do the same! It was a awesome experience! Here is the video link to the final product:
The nuts and bolts:
Wood used: Marine ply 15mm
Why Marine ply: I wanted to build something that will last a long time and that can take the punishment thrown at it over time. Whilst more expensive, the screw retention strength is far stronger in comparison to commercial ply. Additionally marine ply absorbs much less water and is treated with a antifungal coating, which is very important to me in case my water tank leaks or there is spillage within my draws. The thicker 15mm marine ply would also compensate for any lack of structural integrity caused in the building process.
Time taken: 5 full days. completed over two weekends and a work day
Helpers: Could not have done it without the help of my father-in-law. We used his workshop which had all the requisite tools and space
Biggest learning: Measure the width of the barn doors as they angle slightly inwards and you have far less space to fit the final product. This small but obvious mistake cost us plenty time and a lot of frustration while fitting.
My 2 cents of wisdom and advice through this process: Fit everything, over and over. Have all your camping gear nearby and ready so that you can continuously fit things and try new ideas. Unless you are a professional, your final product isn't going to be 100% exactly as you have envisioned, be flexible in your design and layout but also, have of list of things that is a priority to you and try your best to not forgo these. Lastly, have fun doing it!
If you want it exactly as you envisioned it and are unwilling to compromise, wanting and needing to use every inch of space - take it to a professional and suck up the fee. If you want to have fun, have a story and learn tons in the process, do it yourself!
The cost breakdown:
I'm going to round the numbers and include links of where I bought what. This is the cost of the draw system and not the dual battery system, water tank or solar panel shown.
Marine ply 3 sheets (2440mm x 1220mm) R1000 a sheet = R3 000 https://www.citiwood.co.za/contact-us/
700 mm heavy duty slide (For fridge, 90KG weight capacity) = R420 https://4x4direct.co.za/loose-slides/65 ... -of-2.html
2 x 700 mm Medium duty slides (For Draws, 45 kg weight capacity) 2 x R205 = R410 https://4x4direct.co.za/loose-slides/76 ... -of-2.html
3 x Locks / spring loaded bolts. R50 x 3 = R150 https://4x4direct.co.za/locks-and-catch ... 61935.html
2 X Handles for draws R30 = R60 https://4x4direct.co.za/air-vents-and-h ... 61614.html
6 tie down points, rated at 250 kg based on screw ratings (points rated at 300kg), R35 x 6 = R210 https://4x4direct.co.za/cargo-tracks-an ... point.html
Carpeting, ribbed carpet, abrasion friendly, 1.8m x 1m @ R105 / m x 4 = R420 https://www.kehls.co.za/
Screws, wood glue, carpet adhesive, staples for staple gun, L brackets for battery box, wood sealer, paint brushes = R1 400 bought at Builders in Paarl
Total cost without beers : R6 070
The process:
We started out by creating and measuring the base. To us, this was the most important part to get 100% accurate and right. The idea was to create the base, make sure it fits and can be moved in and out easily. From here, the plan was to create and build the rest inside the workshop where there was plenty space to move around.
We used a piece of off cut cloth from the workshop to create a template for the base. We simply lay the cloth over the back space and used chalk to outline edges and to mark the tie down points. We simply cut this and checked, repeated the process a few times for refinement before proceeding to cut the wood.
After ensuring that the base was perfectly laid and lined up to the tie down points ( Bolts that tied down the two rear chairs - 4 of them *note that you will need to purchase new ones that are much longer, fasting them with washes and spring washes), we removed the base and then started to build the actual structure.
We used a combination of 25mmx25mm pine and marine ply offcuts for strengthening along all the joints. We drilled small 6mm pilot holes first before attaching the appropriate screws in combination with wood glue. We placed the strengthening strips first before attaching the sides. This is where having the camping gear with you comes into its own as you can use the actual gear for placement instead of measuring everything. We screwed and glued the sides into the base, the strips, joining sides and eventually the roof. Using the 15mm ply throughout made this strong as hell.
Placing of strengthen strips along what would be our edges and joins:
Attaching sides to those strips, the base and joining edges using glue and screws:
After using my fridge as a actual place holder, we could determine exactly where the draws could start. This allowed us to place the middle strengthening strip as well as middle divider:
As the screws and glue pulled the sides in a unwanted position, we nailed in nails and used a piece of sting to hold the sides in the correct position so that the glue could set. Our intention was to only create and fit the top once the draw system was placed in the car as the top was bigger than the base.
(Going to continue seems that I have reached a file size limit)
The idea behind this thread is to share my experience with you all, including my lessons learnt while building my homemade, DIY draw system. I'm going to start off by saying that I'm pretty useless when it comes to DIY stuff and that I contemplated long and hard before deciding to tackle this project, watching many videos and reading many threads before taking the leap.
In the end, I'm glad that I did take the plunge and I encourage others to do the same! It was a awesome experience! Here is the video link to the final product:
The nuts and bolts:
Wood used: Marine ply 15mm
Why Marine ply: I wanted to build something that will last a long time and that can take the punishment thrown at it over time. Whilst more expensive, the screw retention strength is far stronger in comparison to commercial ply. Additionally marine ply absorbs much less water and is treated with a antifungal coating, which is very important to me in case my water tank leaks or there is spillage within my draws. The thicker 15mm marine ply would also compensate for any lack of structural integrity caused in the building process.
Time taken: 5 full days. completed over two weekends and a work day
Helpers: Could not have done it without the help of my father-in-law. We used his workshop which had all the requisite tools and space
Biggest learning: Measure the width of the barn doors as they angle slightly inwards and you have far less space to fit the final product. This small but obvious mistake cost us plenty time and a lot of frustration while fitting.
My 2 cents of wisdom and advice through this process: Fit everything, over and over. Have all your camping gear nearby and ready so that you can continuously fit things and try new ideas. Unless you are a professional, your final product isn't going to be 100% exactly as you have envisioned, be flexible in your design and layout but also, have of list of things that is a priority to you and try your best to not forgo these. Lastly, have fun doing it!
If you want it exactly as you envisioned it and are unwilling to compromise, wanting and needing to use every inch of space - take it to a professional and suck up the fee. If you want to have fun, have a story and learn tons in the process, do it yourself!
The cost breakdown:
I'm going to round the numbers and include links of where I bought what. This is the cost of the draw system and not the dual battery system, water tank or solar panel shown.
Marine ply 3 sheets (2440mm x 1220mm) R1000 a sheet = R3 000 https://www.citiwood.co.za/contact-us/
700 mm heavy duty slide (For fridge, 90KG weight capacity) = R420 https://4x4direct.co.za/loose-slides/65 ... -of-2.html
2 x 700 mm Medium duty slides (For Draws, 45 kg weight capacity) 2 x R205 = R410 https://4x4direct.co.za/loose-slides/76 ... -of-2.html
3 x Locks / spring loaded bolts. R50 x 3 = R150 https://4x4direct.co.za/locks-and-catch ... 61935.html
2 X Handles for draws R30 = R60 https://4x4direct.co.za/air-vents-and-h ... 61614.html
6 tie down points, rated at 250 kg based on screw ratings (points rated at 300kg), R35 x 6 = R210 https://4x4direct.co.za/cargo-tracks-an ... point.html
Carpeting, ribbed carpet, abrasion friendly, 1.8m x 1m @ R105 / m x 4 = R420 https://www.kehls.co.za/
Screws, wood glue, carpet adhesive, staples for staple gun, L brackets for battery box, wood sealer, paint brushes = R1 400 bought at Builders in Paarl
Total cost without beers : R6 070
The process:
We started out by creating and measuring the base. To us, this was the most important part to get 100% accurate and right. The idea was to create the base, make sure it fits and can be moved in and out easily. From here, the plan was to create and build the rest inside the workshop where there was plenty space to move around.
We used a piece of off cut cloth from the workshop to create a template for the base. We simply lay the cloth over the back space and used chalk to outline edges and to mark the tie down points. We simply cut this and checked, repeated the process a few times for refinement before proceeding to cut the wood.
After ensuring that the base was perfectly laid and lined up to the tie down points ( Bolts that tied down the two rear chairs - 4 of them *note that you will need to purchase new ones that are much longer, fasting them with washes and spring washes), we removed the base and then started to build the actual structure.
We used a combination of 25mmx25mm pine and marine ply offcuts for strengthening along all the joints. We drilled small 6mm pilot holes first before attaching the appropriate screws in combination with wood glue. We placed the strengthening strips first before attaching the sides. This is where having the camping gear with you comes into its own as you can use the actual gear for placement instead of measuring everything. We screwed and glued the sides into the base, the strips, joining sides and eventually the roof. Using the 15mm ply throughout made this strong as hell.
Placing of strengthen strips along what would be our edges and joins:
Attaching sides to those strips, the base and joining edges using glue and screws:
After using my fridge as a actual place holder, we could determine exactly where the draws could start. This allowed us to place the middle strengthening strip as well as middle divider:
As the screws and glue pulled the sides in a unwanted position, we nailed in nails and used a piece of sting to hold the sides in the correct position so that the glue could set. Our intention was to only create and fit the top once the draw system was placed in the car as the top was bigger than the base.
(Going to continue seems that I have reached a file size limit)