Nissan Patrol 4x4 (Africa)

My parents went to see a new patrol at nissan and interestingly my mother liked it! Coming from a DIESEL D3 with more bells and whistles than most vehicles, fuel consumption of 12km/l@120 they (10 comb), are considering a 4.8 as it's "simpler" and more bundu proof.

They just recently also bought an awesome Conquerer (I think) 4x4 trailer and got rid of the poorly built Explorer but as a matter of interest what would the expected fuel consumption be like with a 4.8 and Explorer caravan?

Would you guys HONESTLY recommend a 4.8 Patrol as a good retirement vehicle? ie last 4x4? They're considering new. Is it realistic expecting a 4.8 to last 15 years properly serviced or should they keep their D3 diesel?

Go for the 4.8 Patrol

I heard yesterday of another 3.0l diesel Patrol that exploded!!!

For any vehicle owner, 15 - 95 years old, who can afford the 4.8's running cost....buy it and enjoy it! In fact: What a fantastic retirement experience!!!!

The 4.8 with heavy trailer should still give you around 5km/l on open road. In 4x4 conditions it should be heavier. The exact figure will depend on the type of terrain, speed etc.

Dieselfan you are just a sh&t stirrer off note.

Why do you always just post questions ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

The response you will get on this one , I know the answer, all ready.

Koos you can let me know if this is what you expected:

Dieselfan, it makes no financial sense to buy a new car unless your employer forces you to buy new as a company car. On somthing like a 4.8 Patrol, you lose nearly 50% of the car's value the moment you drive it off the dealer floor. Why would anybody throw R300 000 down the toilet just for the doubtful privelege of having a warranty that the dealer will probably find a way to wangle out of if anything really big does actually go wrong? You can replace the entire drivetrain with a new one for the money you lose. Secondly, I have yet to see somebody buy a car for their retirement and keep that car for 15 years, because so many things change in 15 years.

I am quite happy that a 4.8 Patrol if well maintained and used sensibly will last 15 years, hell my 4.2 is 15 years old and shows no signs of expiring yet, and it has had a tough life. But if they are planning for their retirement they moss don't have to be in a hurry? Let them wait untill a nice clean 1 or 2-year old comes along on which they can confidently establish the history and save a pile of cash that they can use much better.

KOOS BEST wrote:Dieselfan you are just a sh&t stirrer off note.

Why do you always just post questions ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

The response you will get on this one , I know the answer, all ready.

KOOS BEST wrote:Why do you always just post questions

Not my intention, as my dad used to always say "rather be an idiot for a second than an idiot for a lifetime."

Besides Koos the reason I ask here is I found the Patrol forum to be the most honest and unemotional. YOUR replies as you have both, JG as he has a Toy have both assisted GREATLY, heck I have some of his PM's even printed out! I'm asking legit questions, not stirring for the sake of it. Besides the Patrol / Defender debate was balanced and we saw great pics too ;), maybe near the end it got "jokey".

This thread however is simple, if you were approaching retirement and your bucket list includes many other African countries, is the 4.8 a good choice over other 4x4's? My dad is nervous after reading a guy who got 40l/100km towing a boat

BUY THE D3, look at KOOS he is retired and he drives a D3 so it makes perfect sense to go for the D3

Koos me will contact you for a outing at Bainage 4x4 so you can come and "maak stil die Patrol GU ouens se grootmonde", most probably sunday 17th July

Shalom
Jules

Peter Connan wrote:Koos you can let me know if this is what you expected:

Dieselfan, it makes no financial sense to buy a new car unless your employer forces you to buy new as a company car. On somthing like a 4.8 Patrol, you lose nearly 50% of the car's value the moment you drive it off the dealer floor. Why would anybody throw R300 000 down the toilet just for the doubtful privelege of having a warranty that the dealer will probably find a way to wangle out of if anything really big does actually go wrong? You can replace the entire drivetrain with a new one for the money you lose. Secondly,

Peter you have hit the nail on the head, couldn't agree more, what you have said makes perfect sense.

Diselfan, I have just joked about the question bit, I am one that always do a lot of research like you.

I personally can not see anybody that do research can go for a 4.8 Patrol above a 4.4 V8 D4, I dont know what's the price difference but I know what the research results will tell me.

What trouble or hick up's have your folks had with their D3 ?

KOOS some of us now what is BEST


Shalom
Jules