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Re: New 76 series

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I also suspect that these super-long warranties probably have terms and coditions that will make succesful claims unlikely, but still I think it's impressive that they are prepared to stick their necks out that far.

With regard to getting the turbo to work earlier, there are a whole lot of ways to do this. For example the variable vane turbo on the ZD30 is designed to do exactly this. One can also use either sequential or compound twin turbos to achieve this (although I know this is not what they are doing on this engine). Of course pretty much all these methods add complexity and require computer control...
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That million km warranty is not transferable, so if you sell it ends.

Also think there is servicing and maintenance stipulations....

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Interresting topic. A couple of months ago I would have reacted differently........
I love the DC land Cruiser V8, lovely 4X4 :blonde: I am however not convinced that the 2.8 will be as good as the older V8s, but that is just me.
Would I trade my two Patrols for it, NO!!! Would I get a DC Cruiser, YES!!!
So, now I am caught between two super nice worlds and love it. :woo: In boere Afrikaans noem ons dit n draadsitter :imsorry:

Let me do the biggest sin and post a nice pic of my new Baby on the Patrol forum :surprised: and maybe this year rather take the Cruiser to the River trip......

Now I can sit back and enjoy the comments :biggrin:
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DawidT wrote: 19 Feb 2024 13:14 Interresting topic. A couple of months ago I would have reacted differently........
I love the DC land Cruiser V8, lovely 4X4 :blonde: I am however not convinced that the 2.8 will be as good as the older V8s, but that is just me.
Would I trade my two Patrols for it, NO!!! Would I get a DC Cruiser, YES!!!
So, now I am caught between two super nice worlds and love it. :woo: In boere Afrikaans noem ons dit n draadsitter :imsorry:

Let me do the biggest sin and post a nice pic of my new Baby on the Patrol forum :surprised: and maybe this year rather take the Cruiser to the River trip......

Now I can sit back and enjoy the comments :biggrin:

Dawid

Now that you have posted that, you have been sitting with your popcorn and waiting in vain for a day? :rolling:
Everyone too shocked to respond maybe.

I would be interested to know how comfortable it feels for you on the long road compared to your 4.8 GRX.
As PC said, the brainwashing of LC owners is complete. You, however can apply judgement, since, unlike 99.99% of LC owners, you have actually driven a Patrol before.

Other than comfort, my only issue with the vehicle (besides theft risk and being a common resident) is its lack of flex.
You do not need to give feedback on that front. I have seen what it cannot do.
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Alex,

To be honest, I purchased it mainly for the double cab configuration, it suits my needs best. The ride comfort is surprisingly comfortable due to an aftermarket suspension. interior is dated and very basic, the wife says it looks like her old Toyota Tazz on the inside :rolling: I love the V8, also a reason for buying it, no hunting in gears when I tow my caravan, but it is a manual gearbox - maybe not fully comparing apples with apples.

Just some bullets;
1) Patrol far more robust if comparing the drive train and under carriage components - visually
2) Patrol much much more luxurious and comfortable inside - however the cruiser does have an electric aerial :woo:
3) I believe the Patrol will outperform the Cruiser offroad - difference is mainly the coils vs leaf springs - haven't done serious offroad (River trip style) driving yet in it
4) Cruiser is not slow as people say - I do a comfortable 120 to 130 km/h on the highway
5) I am 1.9m tall and was told I would not be comfortable in the Cruiser - not true
6) Noisy inside when driving - but nice to hear the V8 tone in the wind coming in through the door seals :doh:
7) Huge amount of aftermarket goodies for the Cruiser
8) Towed heavy double axel trailer up and down doing some building work, mainly around town and one Witbank - Pta trip at 130km/h and got 6,7km/l with the Cruiser - my GU will be giving me just over 5km/l empty

I believe you can not really compare them straight on, it really boils down to what you want to do with it - I love both and kept my Patrols, will not replace my GU and GQ for a Cruiser SUV.
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Those are good consumption figures

That electric arial is a big plus.
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The reputation for slowness comes from the 1HZ.

I love my TD42, but in terms of power without issues, Toyota have at least two superior engines.
Both of them are however computer controlled. This is not really an issue in factory installations but is still a concern for me in retrofits.
However my concern is that in the event of trouble I personally would be completely unable to rectify.

I wheeled the difficult half of Piesangkloof with two guys with 79's (an HZ and a V8) and an FJ.
The V8 sure made it look easy (except for the numerous times he hung up on the spring hangars). Loads of bottom end.
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Since Nissan has rammed its collective heads firmly up its own sphincter, they don't offer heavy duty solid axle vehicles any more.

So: sadly, if we want a workhorse bakkie/SUV/wagon, we'll have to buy an LC70 variant.

Even Toyota is being pressurised to stop production of the 70 series by the Brussels Nazis. The only reason they are still producing is due to pressure from the mining companies.

I fail to understand how the EU can dictate what we drive.
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This modern world is just crazy.

Nissan still make the Y61, but it's not sold here.
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Peter Connan wrote: 22 Feb 2024 16:24 This modern world is just crazy.

Nissan still make the Y61, but it's not sold here.
Where? Not in Oz any more. Which other RHD country? None.
See my comment about Nissan. They couldn't sell water in a desert during a heatwave. Nissan ZA is pathetic. They think everybody wants a top spec vehicle.
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