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Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 07 Jan 2024 14:10
by Wilfred Moore
I recently visited the Kruger Park. While driving, very hot day, I went through a small puddle of mud water. Shortly after, the engine warning light came on and the Patrol died on me. Trying to start it again with difficulty, the Patrol was misfiring badly. Drove to the nearest camp site, where I had the Patrol recovered on a flatbed back to Pretoria. After investigation, it was found that 4 of the 6 ignition coils were cooked. ( photos attached)
What could be the reason?
In the mean time, Thys fitted other coils and the Patrol runs perfectly.
Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 08 Jan 2024 12:16
by jakeslouw
I'm no expert, but I'd say a combination of age and the water on a hot coil or water on the voltage supply to the coils.
That's why one should only buy TD42 patrols or ZD30 if your name is Reenen.

Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 08 Jan 2024 16:56
by Alex Roux
jakeslouw wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 12:16
I'm no expert, but I'd say a combination of age and the
water on a hot coil or water on the voltage supply to the coils.
That's why one should only buy TD42 patrols or ZD30 if your name is Reenen.
I did not know this was a risk for coils.
Wilfred, do you think the "puddle of mud water" could have had that effect? I.e. splashed all the way to the top of the engine, to coils?
Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 09 Jan 2024 08:41
by jakeslouw
Alex Roux wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 16:56
I did not know this was a risk for coils.
Wilfred, do you think the "puddle of mud water" could have had that effect? I.e. splashed all the way to the top of the engine, to coils?
As far as I know, a short from coil to earth can cause a coil to melt. So in this case, the high voltage went to the head via the side casing, not through the plug.
Path of least resistance.
Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 09 Jan 2024 11:49
by Wilfred Moore
Alex Roux wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 16:56
jakeslouw wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024 12:16
I'm no expert, but I'd say a combination of age and the
water on a hot coil or water on the voltage supply to the coils.
That's why one should only buy TD42 patrols or ZD30 if your name is Reenen.
I did not know this was a risk for coils.
Wilfred, do you think the "puddle of mud water" could have had that effect? I.e. splashed all the way to the top of the engine, to coils?
Hi Alex, could not see anything on the coils, there were splash marks on top of the engine and under the engine cover, not much though.

Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 09 Jan 2024 12:12
by jakeslouw
Wilfred Moore wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 11:49
Hi Alex, could not see anything on the coils, there were splash marks on top of the engine and under the engine cover, not much though.
Were the plugs changed recently and are they correct for the coil spec?
Coils will fail if the voltage can't get out of the plug. More than one coil at a time implies a common issue. The only common issue is the upstream voltage (from the voltage regulator) or the downstream circuit : in this case, since this is a coil-on-plug, the plugs are the only common items.
Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 09 Jan 2024 16:02
by Wilfred Moore
jakeslouw wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 12:12
Wilfred Moore wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 11:49
Hi Alex, could not see anything on the coils, there were splash marks on top of the engine and under the engine cover, not much though.
Were the plugs changed recently and are they correct for the coil spec?
Coils will fail if the voltage can't get out of the plug. More than one coil at a time implies a common issue. The only common issue is the upstream voltage (from the voltage regulator) or the downstream circuit : in this case, since this is a coil-on-plug, the plugs are the only common items.
Hi Jakes, thanks for your response. I had long life sparkplugs fitted, which was in the vehicle for probably 2+ years, they said it should be changed every 90,000 Km. Thys Ellis has now changed the plugs with normal plugs when fitted the new coils.
Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 09 Jan 2024 16:19
by jakeslouw
Wilfred Moore wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 16:02
Hi Jakes, thanks for your response. I had long life sparkplugs fitted, which was in the vehicle for probably 2+ years, they said it should be changed every 90,000 Km. Thys Ellis has now changed the plugs with normal plugs when fitted the new coils.
NGK PLFR5A-11 or LFR5A-11 as per OEM? As far as I can see, you MUST run a resistor-type plug.
Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 10 Jan 2024 09:19
by ChristoSlang
Makes sense: melting comes from heat, heat comes from excessive current, excessive current comes from low resistance or a short.
Re: Cooked Ignition Coils
Posted: 11 Jan 2024 10:17
by Wilfred Moore
jakeslouw wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 16:19
Wilfred Moore wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024 16:02
Hi Jakes, thanks for your response. I had long life sparkplugs fitted, which was in the vehicle for probably 2+ years, they said it should be changed every 90,000 Km. Thys Ellis has now changed the plugs with normal plugs when fitted the new coils.
NGK PLFR5A-11 or LFR5A-11 as per OEM? As far as I can see, you MUST run a resistor-type plug.
The plugs that were in my vehicle: LFR5AP-11 (NGK R)