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Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:05
by offroadbiker
a Group buy should maybe bring the price down even further.....

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:17
by hugejp
The spartan Locker seems good too, but looks to be slightly more expensive for some reason.

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:24
by Michael
I have read somewhere that the Spartan Locker is only suitable for vehicles with no bigger than 32" tyres and "lighter" vehicles.......not sure if this is true or not.

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:32
by SJC
offroadbiker wrote:a Group buy should maybe bring the price down even further.....
For which locker?


Lokka is currently $286 = R3827. But import duties is probably another R2k.
There is a "not so active" member on this forum who have bought a lokka locker from australia and imported. (He is more active on 4x4community).
http://patrol4x4.co.za/memberlist.php?m ... ofile&u=63

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:45
by offroadbiker
That is the one I was looking at.

For my rear LSD there is no locker option I was told :redface:

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 11:15
by biggles
4x4 traction:

1 x LockRight / Lokka Locker - Nissan H233B 31-Spline 2-Pinion Front: R 6500.00 Incl.
1 x Detroit Locker - Nissan H233B 31-Spline: R 17500.00 Incl.

The difference is the Lockright only replaces the pinions and is what is known as a lunch box locker. It is relatively easy to install. Small and fits into the carrier. The detroit replaces the whole carrier. In the context of the jeep diffs they recomend you go detroit because of carrier weakness... given the patrol diffs the carriers are plenty strong enough. Additional research on the destructibility of the lock rites... well guys HAMMERING "rat" 4x4s in acts that I see as purposely trying to break them don't seems to be managing. Diff damage with lockrights seems to be worn diffs rather than lockrights failing.

Offroad behavior seems to be flawless in terms of locking and unlocking on cornering. I do see references to turning on steep descents engine braking where the wheels are putting torque back into the drive shaft and then do not unlock. The cure is a small blip on the throttle to "unwind" the diff and then it will open. Or use the brakes.

R6500 is pretty good and you get a local warranty.

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 11:18
by SJC
biggles wrote:4x4 traction:

1 x LockRight / Lokka Locker - Nissan H233B 31-Spline 2-Pinion Front: R 6500.00 Incl.
1 x Detroit Locker - Nissan H233B 31-Spline: R 17500.00 Incl.

The difference is the Lockright only replaces the pinions and is what is known as a lunch box locker. It is relatively easy to install. Small and fits into the carrier. The detroit replaces the whole carrier. In the context of the jeep diffs they recomend you go detroit because of carrier weakness... given the patrol diffs the carriers are plenty strong enough. Additional research on the destructibility of the lock rites... well guys HAMMERING "rat" 4x4s in acts that I see as purposely trying to break them don't seems to be managing. Diff damage with lockrights seems to be worn diffs rather than lockrights failing.

Offroad behavior seems to be flawless in terms of locking and unlocking on cornering. I do see references to turning on steep descents engine braking where the wheels are putting torque back into the drive shaft and then do not unlock. The cure is a small blip on the throttle to "unwind" the diff and then it will open. Or use the brakes.

R6500 is pretty good and you get a local warranty.
And who will you get to install it? or diy?

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 03 May 2017 15:53
by biggles
SJC wrote:
biggles wrote:4x4 traction:

1 x LockRight / Lokka Locker - Nissan H233B 31-Spline 2-Pinion Front: R 6500.00 Incl.
1 x Detroit Locker - Nissan H233B 31-Spline: R 17500.00 Incl.

The difference is the Lockright only replaces the pinions and is what is known as a lunch box locker. It is relatively easy to install. Small and fits into the carrier. The detroit replaces the whole carrier. In the context of the jeep diffs they recomend you go detroit because of carrier weakness... given the patrol diffs the carriers are plenty strong enough. Additional research on the destructibility of the lock rites... well guys HAMMERING "rat" 4x4s in acts that I see as purposely trying to break them don't seems to be managing. Diff damage with lockrights seems to be worn diffs rather than lockrights failing.

Offroad behavior seems to be flawless in terms of locking and unlocking on cornering. I do see references to turning on steep descents engine braking where the wheels are putting torque back into the drive shaft and then do not unlock. The cure is a small blip on the throttle to "unwind" the diff and then it will open. Or use the brakes.

R6500 is pretty good and you get a local warranty.
And who will you get to install it? or diy?
Not to much thought to that. I will get hold of Tour de Frans first.

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 04 May 2017 08:55
by Clem
biggles wrote:Auto locker for me is definitely the way to go for front of our patrols. You do not have any on road issues as in 2H you are not using your diff. Offroad I am offroading and having the front locked until it don't need it, just feels better than having it open until I need it locked. When you want to go around a corner it unlocks. All that without having to push a button.
I tend tto go into 4wd when travelling at speed on dirt roads - it makes the vehicle more stable (although the long wheelbase helps too). I would worry about a front auto-locker in those circumstances. Or am I mistaken?

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 04 May 2017 09:39
by SJC
I think you do tend to "fight" a little bit more with the steering wheel from what I hear..