Nissan Patrol 4x4 (Africa)

Why does one weld the mounts without the gearbox in place?

Baie dankie - en baie mooi fotos

SRXy wrote:That's incredible! Well done guys! Awesome job there. It's really amazing to see that engine in so many pieces. Congrats!

Can you post what the part numbers for the 24V conversion were? So that if anyone has to do this in the future they can can easily get the info. I'm going to be replacing my clutch soon and I'm going to replace the engine and gearbox mounts. Did you replace the engine mounts with TD42 ones? Are they the same as the ZD30's engine mounts? It would be cool if you could also post the part numbers for those mounts.

Hi SRXy

I promise once the project is finished I will compile a thorough list of all the parts (original as well as after market) used, where sourced etc etc. I am keeping a tight spreadsheet in order to know what the conversion will cost me at the end of the day.

In order to answer your one question re the mounts - no they are not the same as the ZD30's. Not only do you need to find a set of TD42 chassis mounts - they also sit on a different location on the chassis. That's why we cut the ZD30's mounts off and welded the new chassis mounts in place. Frans was fortunate enough to source those for me from somewhere - I bought the original 2 x TD42 engine mounts from Nissan - this part number being 11220VB000. They were R1593-06.

But once done I will post a more detailed parts list - all I can say it is amazing what you can find for our cars with a bit of trouble and phoning around in terms of parts - and compared to the pricing of the Stealers. For instance - the 12V starter - R2100-00 (aftermarket) compared to the Stealers R9781-61!!!! The TD42 engine overhual gasket set - Stealers @ R4598-33 - Masterparts @ R1071-69!!!! And so I can carry on giving you comparisons!!

Watch this space - I will do that parts list - pity we can't paste / upload Excel spreadsheets - then I could have loaded mine which already contains all the information!! Come on Moderators - there's a challenge for you - how about the ability to post spreadsheets / pdf files in the near future.

Regards

OB1 wrote:

Why does one weld the mounts without the gearbox in place?

OB1,

Sorry - I told the story the wrong way around - we first fitted the gearbox before Frans welded the engine mounts. We had to because you need to "marry" the gearbox & engine with each other in order to get the exact marks where the new chassis mounts need to go.

Sorry - blonde moment!!

Pieter when you do your comparison spreadsheet please also indicate where you bought what parts so we can for future reference know where to source, also show what the Stealer cost is compared to the non- stealer so one can see how much cheaper the whole transplant was

Sterkte
Shalom

Pieter en Frans, .......UITSTEKEND!

Die fotos vat myself so 8 maande terug in tyd. Die verskuiwing van die enjin monterings lyk of dit op dieselfde plaek as die 4.8 s'n kan wees. Het julle gemeet hoeveel hulle vorentoe geskuif het? Dit laat my wonder of die 4.2 en 4.5 en 4.8 se enjin monterings nie dalk almal op presies dieselfde plek sit nie.

Julle is besig om vir SIMSON hier te bou. Ek glo nie jy gaan daai Patrol ooit weer wil verkoop nie. Sal ek en jy nie dalk 'n publieke uitstalling voor Nissan SA se gebou gaan hou waarin ons demonstreer hoe die ZD30 Patrol opgegradeer kan word nie?

Miskien moet julle dit doen by Nissan SA se road show!

JG en Herrie

Uitstekende idee - dan kan ons sommer vir Nissan SA wys wat kan gedoen word sonder hulle hulp ook - met n beter eindresultaat as wat hulself of hul fabriek met al sy engineers kan opdis!!!

Dis soos Frans se - dit is almal gekwalifiseerde engineers wat by Nissan werk - hulle sit almal hulle toebroodjies op die engins neer!!!!

Terloops - ek hou van jou verwysing na SIMSON - dis dalk n naam wat by my kar kan bly.......

Groete

Jules wrote:Pieter when you do your comparison spreadsheet please also indicate where you bought what parts so we can for future reference know where to source, also show what the Stealer cost is compared to the non- stealer so one can see how much cheaper the whole transplant was

Sterkte
Shalom

Jules

Will do - but I am warning you now - it is not meant for the faint hearted!!!! It is honestly an absolute disgrace to see the actual price differences - and most of the time you will even find that the parts come from the same supplier - the only diffenrence is the manufacturer parts come in a box that says Nissan with a part number stamped on it - the aftermarket one comes in a plain brown box with the part number on the outside of the box!!! That's a hell of a price to pay for a box - you have to be a BOX yourself to do that!!

Some parts are reasonably priced - but they are far and few between.

Groete

And when all is said and done send it to a journalist at some 4x4 magazines see if they are willing to publish it. That one article where Nissan replaced some oke's 3.0 on the base of goodwill got too much good publicity to justify their actual attitude

This thread is making me want to go out and look for a blown 3.0 Patrol to pick up cheaply and squeeze a 4.2 in it