Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 23 May 2017 06:03
by Wilkie
Daar gebeur baie dinge in ,Rosslyn
Bmw en Nissan het hulle eie plant daar en ek dink opel ook
Ek sal bietjie met Jeff praat en hoor
Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 23 May 2017 10:57
by Russ Kellermann
Guys,.. get real. They have never been built in SA. Not saying they all built in Japan, but there is no way the patrol is built in SA.
If it was, why would it take 21 working day or more to get the most common parts.
Nissan barely advertise the patrol, never-mind build the thing They know nothing about the patrol , and amaze me every time i've queried something with them, just how poor their knowledge is on this vehicle, pathetic.
I HATE Nissan South Africa. Please dont tell me they built my truck, pleeeeeeeeeease.
To my knowledge, ALL patrols were built in Japan at the Nissan UD truck factory. In fact, i have literature from Nissan Worldwide stating this info. I'll try find it somewhere.
Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 23 May 2017 11:13
by Bre
Sien hoe maak julle arme Russ kwaad nou!
Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 23 May 2017 18:34
by Peter Connan
Russ, i have bad news for you...
The data plate in my car clearly says "Made in South Africa". Despite this, NSA keep telling me it's a grey import, the VIN is not on their system...
I believe the GQ's were brought in CQD form and assembled locally. I have heard rumours that this was done in the Merc factory.
Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 23 May 2017 19:45
by David M
Peter Connan wrote:Russ, i have bad news for you...
The data plate in my car clearly says "Made in South Africa". Despite this, NSA keep telling me it's a grey import, the VIN is not on their system...
I believe the GQ's were brought in CQD form and assembled locally. I have heard rumours that this was done in the Merc factory.
And the thick plottens..... Does your VIN start JN1 Piet?
Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 24 May 2017 05:11
by Peter Connan
Nope. And it doesn't conform to the international standard either.
It starts with ADNC. A lot of the GQ's I have looked at have the same too...
Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 24 May 2017 05:46
by Michael
I will ask a oompie that I know that just retired. He worked at Rosslyn for more than 20 years, maybe he can confirm.
Re: Patrol built locally Y61
Posted: 24 May 2017 07:31
by David M
Based on your first 4 digits I don not think this will help but here goes.
The Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) is composed of 17 characters. The standard was originally defined in ISO Standard 3779 in February of 1977. Then it was revised in 1983. The ISO VIN is designed to identify motor vehicles of all kinds: cars, trucks, busses, motorcycles etc.
The Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) contains three major sections:
* WMI - World Manufacturer Identifier (1,2,3 characters in VIN structure) If the manufacturer builds less than 500 vehicles per year than the third digit is "9". The WMI is described in detail in ISO 3780.
* VDS - Vehicle Description Section. It contains 6 characters (4th to 9th positions in VIN) and defines vehicle attributes specified by manufacturer.
* VIS - Vehicle Identifier Section. The last 8 characters of VIN define Year, manufacturer plant and serial (sequential) number of the vehicle.
The last four characters shall be numeric. The 10th position of the Vehicle Identification Number is a YEAR CODE.
ISO recommends that in VIN code capital letters A to Z and numbers 1 to 0 may be used, excluding I,O and Q in order to avoid mistakes of misread. No signs and spaces are allowed in Vehicle Identification Number code.
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Recap with examples:
Digits 1,2,3 are World, Manufacturer, Identifier
Digits 4,5,6,7,8 are Vehicle descriptor Section -- *Somewhat variable based on manufacturer.
Digit 9 is the check digit
Digit 10 is the Year code
Digit 11 is the Factory code
Digits 12,13,14,15,16,17 are the Vehicle Identification Sequence
Let's see how this splits:
First digit - Country code
U.S.A.(1 or 4), Canada (2), Mexico (3), Japan (J), Korea (K), England (S), Germany (W), Italy (Z)
Second digit - Manufacturer
Audi (A), BMW (B), Buick (4), Cadillac (6), Chevrolet (1), Chrysler (C), Dodge (B), Ford (F), GM Canada (7), General Motors (G), Honda (H), Jaguar (A), Lincoln (L), Mercedes Benz (D), Mercury (M), Nissan (N), Oldsmobile (3), Pontiac (2 or 5), Plymouth (P), Saturn (8 ), Toyota (T), Volvo (V), Suzuki (S), Kawasaki (K).
Third digit - Identifier
Motorcycle (1 or A) Kawasaki and Suzuki seem to follow this anyway
Fourth digit - Vehicle category
Data here is Suzuki specific, haven't found info for other brands.
Scooter (C), Business model or commuter (B), Single cylinder sport/street (N), Multiple cylinder sport/street (G), Family (F), Off road (S), V-Type engine, street, V2/V4/V6/8,... (V), Square Four (H)
Fifth digit - Engine Displacement
Data here is Suzuki specific, haven't found info for other brands.
A=49cc and less
B=50-69cc
C=70-79cc
D=80-89cc
E=90-99cc
F=100-124cc
G=125-149cc
H=150-199cc
J=200-249cc
K=250-399cc
M=400-499cc
N=500-599cc
P=600-699cc
R=700-749cc
S=750-849cc
T=850-999cc
U=1000-1099cc
V=1100-1199cc
W=1200-1299cc
Y=1400-1499cc
Z=1500 & up
Sixth digit - Engine Type
Data here is Suzuki specific, haven't found info for other brands.
1=2 stroke single
2=2 stroke twin
3=2 stroke triple or four
4=4 stroke single
5=4 stroke twin
6=?
7=4 stroke four
Seventh digit
Data here is Suzuki specific, haven't found info for other brands.
Design sequence or model version first version uses 1 then second version uses 2 etc... the tenth version would then be identified by the letter A then B etc..
Eigth digit
Data here is Suzuki specific, haven't found info for other brands.
First version uses 1 then second version uses 2 etc... the tenth version would then be identified by the letter A then B etc...
Ninth digit - Check digit
The ninth vehicle identification number digit is a VIN accuracy check digit, verifying the previous VIN numbers. This is how the check digit works
STEP 1
Assign to each number in the VIN its actual mathematical value and assign to each letter the value specified for it in the following chart:
ASSIGNED VALUES:
A=1 G=7 P=7 X=7
B=2 H=8 R=9 Y=8
C=3 J=1 S=2 Z=9
D=4 K=2 T=3
E=5 M=3 U=4
F=6 N=4 V=5
STEP 2
Multiply the assigned value for each character in the VIN by the position weight factor specified in the following chart:
VIN POSITION AND WEIGHT FACTOR:
1st = 8 10th = 9
2nd = 7 11th = 8
3rd = 6 12th = 7
4th = 5 13th = 6
5th = 4 14th = 5
6th = 3 15th = 4
7th = 2 16th = 3
8th = 10 17th = 2
9th = check digit
STEP 3
Add the products from steps 1 and 2 and divide the total by 11.
STEP 4
The numerical remainder is the check digit which would appear in the 9th position in the VIN. If the remainder is 10, then the letter "X" is used for the check digit.
Tenth digit - Year Code
80(A), 81(B), 82(C), 83(D), 84(E),
85(F), 86(G), 87(H), 88(J), 89(K),
90(L), 91(M), 92(N), 93(P), 94(R),
95(S), 96(T), 97(V), 98(W), 99(X),
00(Y), 01(1), 02(2), 03(3), 04(4),
05(5), 06(6), 07(7), 08(8 ), 09(9) ( Don't know what happens after that )
Eleventh digit - Factory Code
Manufacturer code for what plant it was built in
Twelfth to Seventeenth digits - Serial Number
