Pleasure, we all need to look out for our fellow Patrol owners so they can enjoy them hasssle free for many years to comeIR_Eddie wrote:Oh yes - forgot to mention that i lost a bit of trust in Triangle transmissions with this whole oil thing. Spoke to nissan and they apparently used them about 10 years back as a service provider but stopped the contract with them when they took Renault on board as they don't work on reno.
Mayfair is now officially their national preferred service provider for gearboxes. would be interesting to know what oil they would have proposed to use if they did the box.
Thanks again Noel (NMAD) for spotting this - who knows what could have happened if this slipped by and they used the wrong oil.
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Eddie, if it's not too late I wonder if it's not a good idea to have a little of the old oil tested. There are a number of guys doing it, and it's not expensive.
That way you can determine whether the previous oil was correct, and also whether or not it overheated.
That way you can determine whether the previous oil was correct, and also whether or not it overheated.
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Maybe not a bad idea. Where would one do it though? Ill ask the guy working on it if he knows where i can do it.
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Just google "oil analysis" and your area.
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I hardly blame you Eddie – I would have had many concerns/questions myself.IR_Eddie wrote:Oh yes - forgot to mention that i lost a bit of trust in Triangle transmissions with this whole oil thing.
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Finally got my Patrol back yesterday
Quick update:
Oil - They used about 12l to fill the box and the torque converter. It was completely drained of all the old oil. Unfortunately the oil was mixed with other old oil when drained and could not test it.
The 2 most probable causes for premature seal failure according to the mechanic is excessive Heat and the wrong oil (which could also lead to excessive heat). Both causes have been excluded as all the other seals was in perfect condition. even the outer seal on the reverse piston was still in perfect condition. its only the inner seal that perished. The only conclusion is that it was a bad part from the beginning. Tough luck i guess.
For now im happy that i have my Patrol back and that my box is working again. I need to take it back for a followup inspection after 1,000km. Also got a 12 month / 10,000km warranty.
Quick update:
Oil - They used about 12l to fill the box and the torque converter. It was completely drained of all the old oil. Unfortunately the oil was mixed with other old oil when drained and could not test it.
The 2 most probable causes for premature seal failure according to the mechanic is excessive Heat and the wrong oil (which could also lead to excessive heat). Both causes have been excluded as all the other seals was in perfect condition. even the outer seal on the reverse piston was still in perfect condition. its only the inner seal that perished. The only conclusion is that it was a bad part from the beginning. Tough luck i guess.
For now im happy that i have my Patrol back and that my box is working again. I need to take it back for a followup inspection after 1,000km. Also got a 12 month / 10,000km warranty.
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Ek is bly dat dit darem nou reg is!
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Heres the intestines
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Re: No reverse gear A/T
Yip Eddie ,daai fotos se net een dinge .....olies gemeng met verkeerde hitte gradering en dit seels het hard geword.
ek het so n seel problem op n bell 407 gekry waar ons net ou voorraad olie gebruik het om die olie vlak aan te pas en toe groet die een rubber seel (200k)
ons moet maar gereeld olies ruil en met voor geskrewe olies vervang
ek het so n seel problem op n bell 407 gekry waar ons net ou voorraad olie gebruik het om die olie vlak aan te pas en toe groet die een rubber seel (200k)
ons moet maar gereeld olies ruil en met voor geskrewe olies vervang
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