Goedkoop snorkel

[Trailerman]

Hi Daar

Enige iemand die snorkel van 4x4Direct.co.za op??
Is dit goeie kwaliteit of nie?

Ek sien hulle verkoop Patrol snorkel vir R1800

Groetnis

[Tinus lotz]

Praat met grant hulle sitt baie op by LA sport

[Wilfred Moore]

Hi Trailerman,

Be very carefull when fitting these cheap stuff. It might work for the first year and then the material starts to crack ext.
Also check inside if it is smooth, it must be otherwise the airflow is not suffient.

I would be reluctant to buy it!!

Wilfred

[Kagiso II]

4x4 direct se snorkel is O K Chrisman .. oompie het een vir Lobo gekryu en hom fyn vegrelyk met die duur weergawes - en daardie een was ewe gelyk aan itv kwaliteit [daar is 'n ander snorkel invierder wat rubbusih verkoop - die goed kraak teen die sye langs oop...]
Maar tjek met Pietpetoors by 4x4direct .. Pieter kom al jare saam ons met die Nissan forum en ek vertrou hom -

GERRIE !!!!!!!!!!!! as jy hier inkyk -- vertel bikki vir oompie - het jy al Lobo se [toekomstige] snorkel vergelykl met iets anders?

[Grant]

Do not waste your money. At LA Sport Centurion we tried to fit a few of these snorkels with very little sucess. The reason is the template is poor and the design/finishing does not allow it to be fitted to the contours of the car. Also the material used for the connects from the snorkel to the intake system are poor..


Please visit the Safari Snorkel web site, and there you will find the test that where completed.

[Grant]

Please visit this site before you make a choice.

http://www.dont-get-burnt.com/

[Gerrie]

Yes, ek moet dalk die volgende sê: Die snorkels wat Pietpetoors invoer vir die Hilux'e pas perfek. Geen probleme nie en hulle staan ook nerens terug vir kwaliteit nie - die een wat oom Mac vir Lobo gekry het, het ek nog nie opgesit nie (Lobo se EFI se goed is in die pad - en ek wil nog eers die verf uitsort voor ek dit doen!) maar daar skort niks met kwaliteit nie.
Daai hele toets is in my mening subjektief. 'n Snorkel is in effek 'n pyp wat jou luginlaat hoër opskuif. Almal ken iemand wat uit twee stukke pyp by die huis sommer vir homself 'n snorkel geprakseer het - en hy werk - ek het selfs al 'n ou gesien wat sommer swembadpyp gebruik het - voor jy 'n snorkel opsit is daar mos in elkgeval net 'n stuk pyp wat van jou lugfilter af loop wat dan lug inneem net so agter jou hooflig. Jy kan daai pyp met enigiets verleng as jy rerig lus het, mits dit lugdig is.
Daar was amper groot moeilikheid toe Piet die snorkels begin invoer het - Die snorkel maatskappye wou hom hof toe vat oor kopiereg skending. Hulle het glo aangevoer dat sy snorkels hulle idee en patent steel (die snorkel oor die algemeen). Een het selfs aangevoer dat die snorkel idee ekslusief hulle s'n is wat hulle in 1996 gepatenteer het. Maar ALMAL weet mos dat snorkels al langer as 1996 op voertuie aangebring word. Benoude katte maak benoude spronge - en hulle het gesien die SA mark is vatbaar vir iemand wat nie meer gaan vra vir 'n snorkel as wat sommige ouens vra vir 'n laaistelsel nie! Dink gou hieroor - R4000+ vir iets wat in effek net 'n stuk pyp is?? In my opinie moet daai pyp dan tenminste ge-lace wees met goud...
Om terug te kom by die oorspronklike punt - as jy elke dag deur bonnet-diep water gaan ry, sal daar baie min snorkels wees wat nooit vir jou moeilikheid gaan gee nie. Maar hoeveel van ons ry elke dag deur sulke diep waters? En as jy oor 4 of vyf jaar jouself daar bevind waar jy deur sulke diep waters gaan ry - sal jy in elk geval eers jou snorkel moet inspekteur voor jy dit doen - maak nie saak wie hom gemaak het nie - want wie sê vir jou daai takkie wat laas jaar aan jou snorkel gekrap het daar in die bos het nie dalk 'n krakie op jou peperduur snorkel oopgekrap nie??
Maar dit is net my beskeie mening en moet glad nie as 'n geleerde opinie gesien word nie - ek weet daar is ouens hier met baie meer tegniese kennis wat elke punt wat ek maak dalk uit die water uit kan blaas, maar dis net hoe ek voel oor die saak - mense maak te veel van 'n bohaai oor Piet se snorkels - terwyl hulle vergeet wat 'n snorkel eintlik rerig doen! Ek herhaal weer - hierdie is net my opinie in my persoonlike hoedanigheid - niks te doen met my werk nie!!

[Peter Connan]

Gerrie, I want to put something in your pipe:

Keeping water out of your engine is only one of the benefits of a good snorkel.
In my opinion, a well-designed snorkel can improve (not massively but still) both torque and fuel consumption, particularly when struggling in deep sand. This is because under certain conditions the air reaching the engine intake is significantly cooler. In my limited tests, up to 25 degrees cooler.

If the snorkel is really smooth inside and the air path is not too tortuous, you can also get a significant ram-air effect at higher speeds, but most commercial snorkels are not designed for this purpose. The area where the snorkel's head is is at significantly higher air pressure than the inside of the wheelwell at 100km/h, and if you can maintain that pressure all the way to the engine air intake, this would almost be like fitting a low-pressure turbo. Unfortunately this is difficult to achieve in practise, but from the above it should be clear that a snorkel that is excessively rough inside can cost you significant power.

Furthermore, i feel about a snorkel the same way I feel about a winch or a satphone: it is an insurance policy. It is not practical to check it every time you are about to use it, but if you need it and it fails to work, it is worse than useless, because the "knowledge" that you have it, lets you do things you would not otherwise do.

The other possible point to consider is after-sales service. I am not saying that the more expensive ones automatically have better after-sales service, I am just saying find out what the supplier's record is in this regard.

While I am not condoning over-charging in any way, you must realize that there are different manufacturing methods and practises that come at different prices.

[beast]

I have been investigating this snorkel thing as well and as you guys say it is just a pipe. My 4.8 runs verry hot in the engine compartment and I was hopeing to sort this out. Not mad about this ugly thing sitting on the side of the vehicle. Our guy in Roodepoort, Ben from B G AUTO builds them for R1300, fitted. He has done a few and they work well. He also does them when he fits Lexus motors.

[Grant]

Here all of you. I will however sty with the well known brands. In disagree with the comment of the test being subjective. The pirate has copied the Safari snorkel and thus uses the design as a selling point because it looks like a safari product. If the do this then they should be compared to a Safari Snorkel. If one compares price then one should also compare the construction as well as the material.The test may be subjective, but the Safari Snorkel was also pirated. I will not take a chance with a snorkel, because if can be the cause of a huge failure.


Gents it is not only just about the out side. It's about the sizing for the engine as well as sealing of the dust. No other snorkel on the market has better material in the connection between the snorkel and the filter.