Latest CAR magazine - SUV comparison

[David]

I have just received my latest copy and they gave the Patrol 3/5
Apparently it doesn't have enough electronic goodies.

Obviously All Toyotas got 4/5 even the 70 series LC

[KOOS BEST]

David, remember in SA ,Toyota are everything, we are the only country where the Fortuner are brilliant, the rest of the world its called the Rollux and a failure.
For the L/C 70 , it must be the worst build vehicle on the market , and for that matter the most overprised as well. Its got masonite inner doorpanels covered in vinyl, if you touch the elec. window control it feels like it wants to fall off. The back seat feel like a Ser 1 Landy.
But again Toyata guys say the vast majority cant be wrong, well nearly 70 % of the country votes ANC , it doesnt mean they are brilliant.

And for Nissan, the Patrol is where it is in SA because of them, just received 4 copies of the Sept issues of OZ camping magazines , you must see the double page Ads, in the mags just for the Patrol and Navara's, never never seen one in SA.No wonder PATROLS are so popular down under.

[Russ Kellermann]

Obviously All Toyotas got 4/5 even the 70 series LC

Yes, because the 70 series is overflowing with electronics....???

Guys, really, just have a look at the various comments by the editor on ALL the vehicles in the back of that mag, it is shocking that a magazine about cars can be put into the hands of people who know nothing about them. This guy hears stories and then prints it as fact, its out of control.

Aslo, its very clear how hard Toyota has rubbed itself against the editors of these magazines, there's no other way to explain the outrageous and blatant product pushing of this marque, with no conscience or factual findings.

A 2010 GU Patrol wagon is going to eat a 2010 70 wagon beyond recognition, regardless of that front difflock, oh, and thats before we start on interiors and "electronics" ,..... shocking write-up in my opinion. This guy should be publicly brought to book if he wants to contradict himself so brazenly over subjects that people follow so very closely.

[Sias]

But the LC 70 has absolutely no electronic goodies !
And I doubt very much that it is better off-road than the Patrol, and the on-road comfort cannot be better!
I smell something fishy...

[G-MAN]

I smell ....and a back pocket with some $!

[tour de frans]

Dankie Koos,dis so waar.

[Herrie]

Dis hoekom ek eerder die LW en Wegry lees

[David]

Ek dink CAR moet maar liewer net oor plat karre skryf want hulle kyk uit daardie standpunt na 4x4's en verstaan nie ons behoeftes is anders nie.
Vir my is minder elektronieka 'n bonus en 'n soliede voor-as baie belangrik al gee dit nie die rit gerief van onafhanklike vering nie. Ten minste het ek gemoedsrus wanneer ek Kaokoland of Botswana se agter paaie ry. Het al teveel moderne luukse 4x4's agter op 'n 'flatbed' gesien waar die air-suspension gegroet het. Ek wil ook nie die LC70 sleg sê nie want dit is 'n taai voertuig vir 'n sekere doel en met daai 'locker' op die voor-as amper onstuitbaar maar ek was baie teleurgesteld toe ek die eerste keer na 'n vriend van my s'n gaan kyk het want dit het gevoel soos my ou 1981 Safari stasiewa teen 'n nuwe prys! (Die ou Safari was net vinniger )
Ek dink CAR het êrens die plot verloor want die akuraatheid en objektiwiteit van hulle data suig deesdae - Ek geniet LW,SA4x4 en Wegry deesdae baie meer!

[Russ Kellermann]

Dis hoekom ek eerder die LW en Wegry lees

My earlier comment was also directed at the editor of Leisure Wheels,and,SA4x4, as they too make absolutely diabolical statements that contradict their own allegations.

The bottom line is that the position of editor in many magazines are appointed by merit, which is good and bad, good, because thats the way all business should be done (ie:best CV best job), but also bad, because the literature they editing my not be something they have any practical experience with, and it shows.

[Langman]

Ag manne...hulle weet duidelik nie wat ons weet nie so laat hulle maar skryf wat hulle bly maak. Ouens wat sulke tjol skryf is die tipe wat die grootse en beste 4x4 koop en glad nie eers die ding van die pad af ry nie. Die knoppies en gadgets verfraai hulle eentonige lewens maar wanneer dit kom by wat daai lever heel links wat die Patrol in n' absoluute monster verander in die bos weet hulle sweet blow all! My laaitie weet al wat gebeur as pa die Patrol se "horing" vasvaat, amper soos Clark Kent wat in Superman verander! Ek het my Patrol gekoop om te ry....enige plek waar ek wil en doen dit met my elektriese sondak, elektriese vensters, aircon, power steering, leer "elektriese" seats...wat de hel kan enige normale mens nog soek???? Wat is nou lekkerder as om daai lever terug te gooi voor jy pad af...moenie vir my se n' knoppie druk nie. Is seker nog "old school" en wil voel hoe gaan hy in donkie gear in. Lyk my eerder die samelewing het almal knoppie bef%k geraak!