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Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 18 Aug 2016 14:40
by SJC
Mini Patrol wrote: Now the 265's are R 400 per tyre cheaper than the 285's so that could be another R 2 400 saving.

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Errol - Which tyres did you say had incredible grip? Hankook's ?
Thats why I fitted 255/85r16's. The Dunlops i fitted, were R1k cheaper per tyre than the 285's (but same height).
To me the height is more important than the width, but that is just my personal preference...It seems that a lot of people prefer wider tyres...
(You however dont get this size for stt pro, only st maxx..)

Errol got general grabbers on his patrol. (I think).

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 18 Aug 2016 14:57
by Tinus lotz
Mini Patrol wrote:
Tinus lotz wrote:
Mini Patrol wrote:The Rand has strengthened by 20% which should make a difference of R 900 per tyre on a R 4 500 MT. Buying a set of 6 would equate to a R 5 400 saving.

Somehow I don't think this will happen but we can hope and even if they only drop by 10% it equates to R 2 700.[/quote
Jip i can fill my bakkie for that :blonde:
Fill your bakkie with what? :rolling:
2300 when its empty 185l of diesel :oldtimer:

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 18 Aug 2016 15:00
by Wilkie
Yipp I got General Grabbers and they cost around R1800.00 a tyre,,i'm really impressed with the traction and no tyre noise on tar road

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 18 Aug 2016 15:22
by ricster
A Patrol with 16" rims needs 33" tyres, and apparently General Grabbers don't make 33"

What i am looking at is also got to be good on my wallet. and the Kumho's still are reasonable !!!

I am looking in particular at the Kumho AT51 AT's at the moment

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/tyres-wh ... 51-311026/

or maybe these.... money dependent

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/tyres-wh ... 51-290466/

SJC, bud I must disagree with you ....
quote " Thats why I fitted 255/85r16's. The Dunlops i fitted, were R1k cheaper per tyre than the 285's (but same height).
To me the height is more important than the width, but that is just my personal preference...It seems that a lot of people prefer wider tyres...
"

You cannot have enough rubber on the road. The smaller the tyre the less rubber you have on the tar... less rubber on the tar with a heavy vehicle means your more likely to break traction before a wider tyre. When I want to stop my 3ton Iron Maiden, I want it to stop immediately, and therefore the softer rubber compounds and a bigger footprint on the tar is going to ensure that I do stop as quickly as possible. On soft sand soft ( deflated ) wide tyres are brilliant.... I know from experience with my diesel at Atlantis dunes in the Cape. Skinny tyres would have made me sit for a long time going nowhere slowly. The Patrols ( station wagon ) if I am not mistaken come out with a 31" tyre. A 33" tyre automatically gives you a 1" lift. combine that with a 2"lift and you have a 3" lift which is pretty much perfect for the Patrol. Not to mention how much better they work on 4x4 tracks and trails

And my wife says bigger is better too......hahaha, but that's a different kind of burnin' rubber

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 18 Aug 2016 16:44
by SJC
ricster wrote:A

SJC, bud I must disagree with you ....
quote " Thats why I fitted 255/85r16's. The Dunlops i fitted, were R1k cheaper per tyre than the 285's (but same height).
To me the height is more important than the width, but that is just my personal preference...It seems that a lot of people prefer wider tyres...
"

You cannot have enough rubber on the road. The smaller the tyre the less rubber you have on the tar... less rubber on the tar with a heavy vehicle means your more likely to break traction before a wider tyre. When I want to stop my 3ton Iron Maiden, I want it to stop immediately, and therefore the softer rubber compounds and a bigger footprint on the tar is going to ensure that I do stop as quickly as possible. On soft sand soft ( deflated ) wide tyres are brilliant.... I know from experience with my diesel at Atlantis dunes in the Cape. Skinny tyres would have made me sit for a long time going nowhere slowly. The Patrols ( station wagon ) if I am not mistaken come out with a 31" tyre. A 33" tyre automatically gives you a 1" lift. combine that with a 2"lift and you have a 3" lift which is pretty much perfect for the Patrol. Not to mention how much better they work on 4x4 tracks and trails
The patrol pickup came out standard with 235/85r16, a 32" tyre. (not sure about the new model).
I am not sure what 31" size tyres patrol wagons use to come out,maybe 265/70r16? (I actually thought it came out with 32").

Anyway, 255/85r16 got a bigger footprint than both these mentioned sizes.
And when deflating a tyre for offroad use, the length of the track is more important than the width..

More rubber on tar will be better for braking, stopping etc, but marginally. Unless we are comparing 7.5 split rims to 12.5" wide tyres.. Not much difference between 255 vs 265 vs 285 :lol:

"A 33" tyre automatically gives you a 1" lift." - which is why I say height is more important than width. :thumbup:

There is a misconception that wider is better, but this is not always true: https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertisse ... p-in-sand/

And here: http://www.expeditionswest.com/research ... _rev1.html

Just saying that if I had to choose between a 265/75 vs 255/85, I would take the taller 255/85 (33").
Which I did ....twice. But that is just me.

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 19 Aug 2016 05:56
by David M
Wilkie wrote:Yipp I got General Grabbers and they cost around R1800.00 a tyre,,i'm really impressed with the traction and no tyre noise on tar road
Errol - MT's or AT's?

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 19 Aug 2016 06:40
by Wilkie
Mini Patrol wrote:
Wilkie wrote:Yipp I got General Grabbers and they cost around R1800.00 a tyre,,i'm really impressed with the traction and no tyre noise on tar road
Errol - MT's or AT's?
A/T

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 19 Aug 2016 07:38
by Picasso
I can concur with Errol.
Have the General Graber on two vehicles and the performance , grip and noiseless is very good combined with affordable price. :thumbup:

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 19 Aug 2016 08:08
by ricster
But are those 285's or 265's ??

Re: Tyre prices

Posted: 19 Aug 2016 10:09
by davidvdm
Anybody have any experience with these...
GT RADIAL SAVERO KOMODO MUD TERRAIN
GT RADIAL SAVERO KOMODO MUD TERRAIN
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They now at R2512 each. If I can't get my KL71's, these seem to look the part for the Sani.

I just don't know if they will give me anything close to the 86k km I got from the KL's.

I also seem to find a few brands and models that do not come in a 33x12.5x15, which is frustrating.