4.2D vs. 3.0D

Engines and Engine Systems
User avatar
Russ Kellermann
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 1148
Joined: 01 Feb 2010 22:39
Full Name: Russell Kellermann
Nickname: Russell Kellermann
Home Town: Cape Town now, grew up on the Wild Coast.
Current 4x4: 2007 Patrol 4.2D Pickup
2005 Patrol 4.2TD Wagon
Home Language: English
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 93 times

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by Russ Kellermann »

Or just buy a 4.2 Diesel N/A and never worry about EGT's, common rail issues,Turbo failures, cracked heads and pistons,never constantly watching gauges so that when you want to go up a hill fast you cant anyways, never worry about chipping, mapping or any other electrical issues.

Just put diesel in it and drive from here to there, and then from there back to here. and repeat.

:goodpost:

haha :biggrin:

Only drawback is arriving 25mins behind the rest of the convoy after a 8 Hour drive. But thats lekker cause the braai is always lit when you get there.
'07 Patrol Pickup TD42 N/A,285's KM2,3" Lift,ONCA Bars,Warn High Mount,Alu Canopy, and some other Stuff.
User avatar
Russ Kellermann
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 1148
Joined: 01 Feb 2010 22:39
Full Name: Russell Kellermann
Nickname: Russell Kellermann
Home Town: Cape Town now, grew up on the Wild Coast.
Current 4x4: 2007 Patrol 4.2D Pickup
2005 Patrol 4.2TD Wagon
Home Language: English
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 93 times

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by Russ Kellermann »

PS: I would happily purchase the 4.2D N/A (TD42), the 4.2D turbo intercooled (TD42ti), or the 3.0D turbo intercooled 3.0 (CRD 3.0).

I know Stefan and another on this forum has achieved very reliable returns from their ZD30 patrol, and achieved high milage without issues at all, as have many thousands of folk in Australia and Europe alike, however, law of averages dictates that these motors were not as reliable as the above mentioned motors,...so if i had a choice of a Diesel Nissan Patrol i would chose from the above 3 i mentioned. If anything, they will most likely have the lesser milage when compared to the ZD30 due to the timeline of introduction to our market.
'07 Patrol Pickup TD42 N/A,285's KM2,3" Lift,ONCA Bars,Warn High Mount,Alu Canopy, and some other Stuff.
User avatar
Kagiso II
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 3453
Joined: 10 Jun 2009 16:58
Full Name: Mac Mc Menamin
Nickname: Oom Mac [Uncle Mac] [Uncle] [Oompie] Kagiso
Home Town: BrentwoodPark, Benoni
Current 4x4: 1982 Datsun Safari 2,8 aka LOBO; [1,300,000 Km verby !]
'99 PATROL 4,2 diesel.
2012 Jimny [SWAMBO se Kantoor-toe]
Home Language: AFRIKAANS
Location: Benoni and wherever the Outreach takes me.
Has thanked: 299 times
Been thanked: 155 times
Contact:

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by Kagiso II »

Hallo Edward. Wlecome here / Welkom hier

As all will tell you -- i am FOR the 3.0 Diesel Patrol. I had two ZD 30 Nissan [Patrol and a Hard Body] The Hard Body NEVER had an engine failure [heat problems once because of a water hose closing up on torque]
The Patrol did hand granade on me BUT it could have been prevented. [Nissan dealer diagnosing it with a faulty computer]

But .. if you can afford the later model Patrol with the CRD engine [which replaced the ZD 30 ] THEN the 3.0 Di is by far the better buy [and we will advise you how to take care of it .. once you found your dream wheels

en daazy -- nou issik KLAAR Ingils geneekt vir lang tyd
Don't bring God down to your level of faith ... bring your faith up to His level!
EdwardWT
Full Member
Full Member
Posts: 42
Joined: 11 Nov 2015 11:56
Full Name: Edward Weatherall-Thomas
Nickname: Edward
Home Town: Thabazimbi
Current 4x4: 1995 4.2SGL
2001 3.0 TD
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by EdwardWT »

Thanks for the welocome messages everybody, I already feel quite at home on this forum. It seems that my hunting is going to take longer than just buiyng the first one I see but I look forward to owning my own Patrol.
User avatar
hugejp
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 2052
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 21:01
Full Name: JP Viviers
Nickname: Oupoot
Home Town: JHB
Current 4x4: THE PATROL COLLECTION
2004 4.8 GRX TURBO "Tinkerbell"
2003 TD42T GRX "The Coal Roller"
Home Language: Half & Half
Has thanked: 211 times
Been thanked: 217 times

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by hugejp »

Your Patrol will find you!
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You CAN with a NISSAN!

Jy KAN met 'n DATSUN!
User avatar
ricster
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 5850
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 11:16
Full Name: Cedric Warner
Nickname: Cedric
Home Town: Alberton Gauteng
Current 4x4: '99 Nissan Patrol 4.2 Turbo Diesel
Home Language: English
Location: LA..... No not Los Angles ..... Lower Alberton, Gauteng
Has thanked: 591 times
Been thanked: 468 times

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by ricster »

just thinking laterally here, but If I had the finances to buy another Patrol, I would quite like to buy the 3.0 diesel. But...... I would want it running, and at a VERY good price especially if it is the older ZD30 motor. I would then open up the motor and do a full check on everything inside. If there is nothing wrong and all the internals look good, then it will cost you a head gasket and labour.... ( cheap compared to having a motor blow up on you ). If the pistons or anything needs replacing, Its going to be cheaper to fix than if the block and head is damaged by broken pistons etc. ( again cheaper than having a motor blow up )...... Thereafter, you know that you have a "brand new" motor that you can do the NADS protection to that will last you a looooooooong time !!!
Regards
Cedric
Nissan Patrol GL 4.2 Diesel Turbo (Iron Maiden)
Nissan SANI 3.0 V6 4x4 (SOLD)
Isuzu KB 280 DT 2x4 ('ol Smokey) - SOLD
Suzuki TL 1000R "V twin" (Growler) - SOLD
Wilkie
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 1402
Joined: 24 Feb 2014 15:33
Full Name: Errol Wilken
Nickname: Wilkie
Home Town: Pretoria
Current 4x4: 1999 4.5 GRX Nissan Patrol
2004 BMW 3.0D X5
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 92 times

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by Wilkie »

Welcome Edward, :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
It doesn't matter what PATROL you buy, just get one
My preferred one would be the 4.8 auto,but depending on budget and purpose.My 4.5 is very economical..i fiil up once every 6months unless I go on holiday but like every other Patrol owner from way back when,its always been THIRSTY QQQ
User avatar
Michael
Moderator
Posts: 2479
Joined: 05 Mar 2014 14:39
Full Name: Michael
Nickname: Steyn
Home Town: Centurion
Current 4x4: Patrol GU 4.2 Turbo Diesel
Home Language: Afrikaans
Location: Centurion, PTA
Has thanked: 189 times
Been thanked: 336 times

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by Michael »

Russ Kellermann wrote:Or just buy a 4.2 Diesel N/A and never worry about EGT's, common rail issues,Turbo failures, cracked heads and pistons,never constantly watching gauges so that when you want to go up a hill fast you cant anyways, never worry about chipping, mapping or any other electrical issues.

Just put diesel in it and drive from here to there, and then from there back to here. and repeat.

:goodpost:

haha :biggrin:

Only drawback is arriving 25mins behind the rest of the convoy after a 8 Hour drive. But thats lekker cause the braai is always lit when you get there.
This is a valid point, and yes I monitor many things on my engine. For me its worth it as the N/A 4.2D is not the vehicle you take to a drag race and Tinus might agree after he has driven mine.
One thing is for sure.....with great power comes great responsibility :biggrin:
"The Just shall live by Faith" Rom1:17

Check out my build here My Patrol
And my engine rebuild here mostly engine related stuff
EdwardWT
Full Member
Full Member
Posts: 42
Joined: 11 Nov 2015 11:56
Full Name: Edward Weatherall-Thomas
Nickname: Edward
Home Town: Thabazimbi
Current 4x4: 1995 4.2SGL
2001 3.0 TD
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by EdwardWT »

Hallo almal,
jis ricster ek gooi ook maar die ingels net onder dwang, Afrikaans kry altyd voorkeur. Ek het my Patrol gekry!! Dis toe nie een van die diesels nie maar die 4.2 petrol. Ek hoor by almal hulle is maar dors maar hy sal doen so vir eers. Baie groot planne vir later, watch this space. Dalk 4.2 turbo intercooled something along the lines of the Nissan Cabstar 40?
User avatar
Tinus lotz
Moderator
Posts: 7579
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 13:07
Full Name: Tinus lotz
Nickname: Tinus lotz
Home Town: Centurion
Current 4x4: Nissan patrol 4.8 GRX 2005

Toyota 2.7 legend 35 LWB 4X4
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 800 times
Been thanked: 549 times

Re: 4.2D vs. 3.0D

Post by Tinus lotz »

Plak fotos .....ons wil sien. .... :wink:
Post Reply

Return to “09. Engines”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests