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Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 20 Nov 2019 07:39
by petri oosthuizen
petri oosthuizen wrote: 18 Nov 2019 10:07 Guys

Want to start somewhere here, I think that slight missfire/hestitation would be a good place.

Thinking possible causes would be MAF, plugs,check leads, and fuel pump, sommer also fuel filter. Also clean the PCV Valve (thats the correct name I think?

Sommer want to do everything in one go, then I know its sorted.

1) I saw the Bosch fuel pump somewhere but cant remember. Which fuel pump/part number please??
Is it a difficult job to do, the fuel pump?
2) I'll do the MAF cleaning myself
3) Plugs?? NGK?? 1.1 mm gap??
I've heard its a job to get to the plug against the firewall, any tricks there?
4) I'll sort the "external" fuel filter underneath the car myself.
5) Sort that PCV Valve myself.

.............So its basically just that fuel pump Part number I need, I think it was a Bosch product.

THANKS

Anything else that could cause that hestitation??
MAF done, PCV done, plugs done, air filter done.

Only the fuel filter to do today.

And then I'll get a new fuel pump, that's what the issue is here I think, but ja - the other stuff is now also sorted anyways.

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 20 Nov 2019 17:38
by Peter Connan
My two cents:

The fuel consumption and performance you have been getting is far too good for this to be fuel pump.

I reckon this is spark related. Dizzy, dizzy cap, rotor, coil, or plug leads...

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 21 Nov 2019 06:31
by petri oosthuizen
Peter Connan wrote: 20 Nov 2019 17:38 My two cents:

The fuel consumption and performance you have been getting is far too good for this to be fuel pump.

I reckon this is spark related. Dizzy, dizzy cap, rotor, coil, or plug leads...
Thanks Peter - hear what you're saying.

Guys please don't laugh, I'm really dom with an engine : Can you still adjust timing on this ?? And it is electronic ignition, right?? Sorry I feel that this is a VERY stupid question. :rolleyes: , but here goes anyway.

Thanks x 1000 again!!

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 21 Nov 2019 08:03
by Nissan KingCab
Jip, you can! There is a bolt next to distributor and then you can turn the distributor to advance or retard the timing.

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 21 Nov 2019 08:22
by ricster
petri oosthuizen wrote: 21 Nov 2019 06:31
Peter Connan wrote: 20 Nov 2019 17:38 My two cents:

The fuel consumption and performance you have been getting is far too good for this to be fuel pump.

I reckon this is spark related. Dizzy, dizzy cap, rotor, coil, or plug leads...
Thanks Peter - hear what you're saying.

Guys please don't laugh, I'm really dom with an engine : Can you still adjust timing on this ?? And it is electronic ignition, right?? Sorry I feel that this is a VERY stupid question. :rolleyes: , but here goes anyway.

Thanks x 1000 again!!
Petri, Here on this brilliant Patrol 4x4 forum there are no stupid questions..... ever. When I joined I had very little knowledge about Patrols, but with the help of loads of knowledgeable friends here on this forum I managed to rebuild my TD42 motor from scratch, having never done something as bold as that. Frans ( tour de Frans ) helped me from Cape Town via cell phone on many "silly" questions I had. So please ask as many questions as you want..... This forum is what it is all about..... this is our 4x4 family.

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 21 Nov 2019 09:28
by petri oosthuizen
Nissan KingCab wrote: 21 Nov 2019 08:03 Jip, you can! There is a bolt next to distributor and then you can turn the distributor to advance or retard the timing.
Shot thanks Danie

Ek het nou net jou Trol bietjie deurgekyk op al jou Threads. WOW!!.........mooi skoon een!!! Danie, jy het het 285/75's op?? Rub hulle, of het jy spacers etc etc??

BAIE nice Patrol daai van jou, ek dog myne lyk OK totdat ek daai wa gesien het!! :beamup:

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 21 Nov 2019 10:12
by Tinus lotz
Pedri 285 75 16 is die regte wiele :lol: :lol:

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 21 Nov 2019 11:38
by Nissan KingCab
petri oosthuizen wrote: 21 Nov 2019 09:28
Nissan KingCab wrote: 21 Nov 2019 08:03 Jip, you can! There is a bolt next to distributor and then you can turn the distributor to advance or retard the timing.
Shot thanks Danie

Ek het nou net jou Trol bietjie deurgekyk op al jou Threads. WOW!!.........mooi skoon een!!! Danie, jy het het 285/75's op?? Rub hulle, of het jy spacers etc etc??

BAIE nice Patrol daai van jou, ek dog myne lyk OK totdat ek daai wa gesien het!! :beamup:
Ja, dit is reg ek het 285/75/16 op die groene gehad. Hy het nog standard suspensie op en het net bietjie geskuur aan binnekant van agter modderskerm met "full flex" in river trip.
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Daai agterwiel skuur bietjie aan binnekant maar gebeur nie baie nie.

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 21 Nov 2019 16:23
by Peter Connan
Danie het jy nog jou agterste sway bar in? Vir een of ander rede het ek gedink jy het hom afgehaal?

Petri, mens beide kan en moet die timing stel. Dit is elektronies, maar die module sit binne-in die distributor. Baie mense advance die timing te veel. Die enjins is nogal geneig om te ping en mens moet maar bietjie konserwatief wees.

Die elektronise module raak mettertyd minder effektief.

Nog iets wat jy gerus kan check: daar is 'n expansion box in die lugpyp tussen die filter en die enjin. Hulle skuur soms deur op die onderste hoeke en dit kan ook die simptome veroorsaak.
Hier is 'n thread iewers deur Dawid Marais met fotos en verduudelikings.

Re: 4500 GL - Sorting, Cleanup, Tips, Tricks, Info

Posted: 22 Nov 2019 07:45
by Nissan KingCab
Peter, jy is reg op daardie foto het die Patrol nie 'n "sway bar" agter in nie maar die voorste een is nog vas.